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 | jbs
Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 25 Issaquah, WA 
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2002-08-15 41295
Does anyone know where the best place to weld on chain hooks on my JD 430 loader?
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 | TomG
Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5406 Upper Ottawa Valley 
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2002-08-16 41299
Probably on top right above the arms because that's where the bucket would have the most support. Some restraint is needed if a hook is welded in the centre because a heavy load or load shock can easily bend a bucket when all the load is at the centre.
I've only seen grab hooks used and the slots face back towards the tractor. I guess that's pretty obvious.
Some people use slip hooks, but a grab somewhere usually is needed to secure the chain. If a large load is chained on top of the bucket, it can slip around the bucket if the chain slacks and slip hooks are used. Chains do slack when loads shift a bit. Only load binders can make a chain tight and even then a chain may still slack.
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| Ken VH
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2002-08-16 41301
I have a JD 420 loader, and welded a grab hook to the flat metal piece which is welded to the bucket on each side forming the upper support "pocket" for the arms. Checked with dealer first, and he OK'ed. Very useful for securing bulky things. Took old cast iron bathtub to the dump, and used them to bring a new wood burning stove (400+ lbs)right to my front door for installation. Bought a can of JD green spray paint, and they look OEM. ....
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| MRETHICS
Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 190 Star City, Indiana
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2002-08-16 41304
The contractors whom we do much bussiness with have two solutions to the chainhook problem.
No.1 See Ken's soltion above.
No.2 We spec. the loader with a heavy- duty bucket and
repalacable wear edge. The customer removes
one bolt from the wear edge and installs a shackle
when they need it and where it is needed, this also
will allow you to use multiple locations. If a grab
hook is what you need, they weld the hook to a piece
of strap, and bore a hole in the end so it can be
bolted to the bucket. (a shackle is much safer than a
clevis because it uses a threaded pin)
But the overall best place to have hooks welded to a loader bucket is "Abbott's Blacksmith Shop". Mention my name and he'll cut you a deal!!!!! His wife is a hair styleist, and you can get a haircut while you wait, thus ending the days of bad internet haircuts! And......he's my brother in law. ....
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| jbs
Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 25 Issaquah, WA
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2002-08-16 41315
Thanks for the advice. I moved a cast iron firepit and it weighed 700-800 lbs. I had a
chain wrapped around the bucket resting on a chunk of 4x6 to distribute the weight
coming of the front of the bucket I could only lift it about 3 ft. By moving the chain so
it came off the back of the bucket I was able to raise the firepit to full bucket height.
By installing hooks it will make using a chain a lot easier than wrapping a chain
around the bucket each time. Are the hooks pointed to the front or back of the bucket? ....
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| TomG
Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5406 Upper Ottawa Valley
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2002-08-17 41330
The rare time I lift something heavy with the loader, I run a chain through the pipe between the lift arms so I don't have to worry about bending the bucket. I don't have hooks on my bucket and do most heavy lifting with a 3ph forklift.
If a load slacks, the slots on grab hooks should be faced so a link has the least chance of falling out of the slot. Some operations in Ontario require the use of what I'll call safety grab hooks on safety chains. The hooks are shaped like a heavy block capital letter 'C'. There is a bail across the slot that prevents a link from coming out unless the bail is depressed. The bail is much different than the 'keepers' seen on cheap slip hooks. I have a pair of these safety chains that I use frequently on the tractor and for securing loads in my utility trailer. I mention the hooks here more as something interesting than as something to be welded onto a loader bucket.
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